Comments on: Apostrophes with Words and Names Ending in s https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/ GrammarBook.com Mon, 08 May 2023 18:55:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.0.5 By: GrammarBook.com https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/#comment-1602318 Mon, 08 May 2023 18:55:14 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=26#comment-1602318 In reply to James Roller.

Some may argue that “Melvin’s’s’ Mustard Sauce Recipe” or “Melvin’s BBQ’s’s Mustard Sauce” could be technically correct; however, it looks awkward and confusing. Where possible, we recommend a rewrite to avoid the possessive case: Melvin’s BBQ Mustard Sauce, Melvin’s BBQ Mustard Sauce Recipe. See our post Apostrophes and False Possessives for more information.

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By: James Roller https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/#comment-1601515 Thu, 04 May 2023 19:14:47 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=26#comment-1601515 How do you make a proper noun possessive when it is possessive to begin with? If I have a recipe from Melvin’s BBQ — generally known as Melvin’s — and I want to create a title for it, would it be Melvin’s, Melvin’s’, or even Melvin’s’s Mustard Sauce Recipe? And, by extension, would the correct punctuation when using the entire name be Melvin’s BBQ’s Mustard Sauce?

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By: GrammarBook.com https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/#comment-1590880 Fri, 03 Mar 2023 23:32:55 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=26#comment-1590880 In reply to Ravi.

The following are grammatically correct:
Mr. Davis’s account
It’s the company’s aim to help our consumers.
Our consumers’ expectations are extremely high.

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By: Ravi https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/#comment-1589999 Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:17:49 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=26#comment-1589999 Mr. Davis account
Its the companys aim to help our consumers
Our consumers expectations are extremely high

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By: GrammarBook.com https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/#comment-1572090 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 23:19:13 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=26#comment-1572090 In reply to Christina Clayton.

If you are describing a position in a formally titled division or department, we would treat “Weights and Measures” as a capitalized proper noun phrase and “official” as a lowercased descriptive title: “Weights and Measures official.” Also refer to our posts Capitalization of Job Titles and When to Capitalize People’s Titles.

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By: Christina Clayton https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/#comment-1571400 Mon, 14 Nov 2022 21:31:46 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=26#comment-1571400 What is the correct use of the apostrophe in “Weights and Measures Official”?

Is it “Weights and Measures’ Official”?

Or, is it just “Weights and Measures Official”; or …?

Thank you for your assistance with this.

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By: GrammarBook.com https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/#comment-1564215 Fri, 30 Sep 2022 23:51:17 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=26#comment-1564215 In reply to Andi Thornton.

The line between a possessive or genitive form and a noun used attributively is sometimes fuzzy. Whether you use the possessive Leaders’ or the word Leaders as a descriptive adjective to modify the noun Meeting is a matter of style and preference. Either is grammatically correct. See our post Apostrophes and False Possessives.

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By: Andi Thornton https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/#comment-1562679 Thu, 22 Sep 2022 18:22:40 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=26#comment-1562679 An official is a “Team Leader.” There is a meeting run by the organizers of the event for the Team Leaders from each country.
On the competition schedule should this be listed as
Team Leaders Meeting
or
Team Leaders’ Meeting?
It looks a little odd with the apostrophe as the header for the papers for the meeting and in the schedule on the website.
Thanks for your help.

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By: K-Nex https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/#comment-1550546 Mon, 18 Jul 2022 20:06:15 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=26#comment-1550546 To be clear:

In legal writing, the Souter approach (possessive = ‘s after everything–including words ending in s–unless it’s Biblical or Classical) is the only acceptable approach.

In truth, the Souter approach should be the preferred method, regardless, since the following all say this is standard:
The Elements of Style;
The Chicago Manual of Style;
A Dictionary of Modern Legal Usage;
Fowler’s Modern English Usage;
U.S. Government Printing Office, Style.

It is also included as a rule in Georgetown University Law Center’s guide for effective punctuation in legal writing.

In fact, the only manual that allows for the dropping of the s after the apostrophe in any writing is The Associated Press Stylebook. However, Wilson Follett’s Modern American Usage is fine with either (which isn’t saying much about its reliability, rule-wise).

Furthermore, in legal writing, when in doubt refer to usage in SCOTUS Opinions. It could be the difference in looking like a hack to seasoned attorneys or looking knowledgeable.

For example, in a recent poll Westlaw took of currently licensed and practicing attorneys, 65% of of those under the age of 45 stated they believe the word “pled” is a valid legal term (it is not) and use it in their pleadings and writings. The proper term, of course, is “pleaded.” Pled is a word, but not a legal term.

I run a law firm and tell my new associates, “When in doubt, refer to SCOTUS.” In the entire existence of the Supreme Court of the United States, apparently no Justice has ever used the word “pled.” The only exception for this is when Justices have been required to cite a direct quote from a source that incorrectly used it.

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By: GrammarBook.com https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/#comment-1534974 Fri, 29 Apr 2022 22:49:46 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=26#comment-1534974 In reply to McDerph.

Use the plural possessive “Welcome to the Cateses’.”

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