Comments on: First vs. Firstly: When to Use Each One https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/first-vs-firstly/ GrammarBook.com Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:56:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.0.5 By: Ali https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/first-vs-firstly/#comment-1592561 Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:56:01 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=4664#comment-1592561 I love the constructive conversation everyone is having about this topic, and I’ve never been so interested in English grammar!
I just wrote to a client using “firstly,” and immediately after sending the message, I had a little panic as I thought I may have made a grammatical error. That’s when I stumbled upon this post/website. This is fascinating! And as an American, I find it interesting that I chose to use the less common of the two words, which leads me to wonder: does the area in America matter? I’m from Ohio, and I think it’s quite common for people to say “firstly” in spoken and written language. I’m curious where everyone is from and which of the two they prefer to use.

Great topic! Thank you for the post.

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By: GrammarBook.com https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/first-vs-firstly/#comment-1541697 Fri, 03 Jun 2022 15:11:31 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=4664#comment-1541697 In reply to Akshaya Kumar Jena.

As the post indicates, firstly is a word most native English speakers don’t use, and many might assume it implies a lesser understanding of the language.

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By: GrammarBook.com https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/first-vs-firstly/#comment-1541583 Thu, 02 Jun 2022 23:32:58 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=4664#comment-1541583 In reply to Steve.

We’re delighted to have readers in many countries. We often remind our readers that this website and The Blue Book of Grammar and Punctuation represent American English rules and guidelines. You may find our multi-part review of American and British English of interest. We may also explore other differences among English dialects in future newsletters.

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By: Akshaya Kumar Jena https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/first-vs-firstly/#comment-1540728 Mon, 30 May 2022 02:27:55 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=4664#comment-1540728 While enumerating points, first or firstly should have equal standing. Rather we should prefer firstly since this is the only usage it has got whilst first is more versatile. Only thing to be careful about is if we prefer firstly, it should be followed by secondly, thirdly etc to keep the rhyme and logic intact.

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By: Steve https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/first-vs-firstly/#comment-1540040 Thu, 26 May 2022 06:33:09 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=4664#comment-1540040 I’m a native speaker and plenty of people around me use “firstly.” I’ve also read it a lot.To me it makes sense to add “ly,” which is the adverb marker in English. The prejudice against “firstly” seems to be a US phenomenon. I’m a university professor (US meaning) and if I were marking, my natural instinct would be to consider “firstly” more correct. But I would not deduct any marks for a usage where the two are interchangeable (i.e. I would not mark down the US form).
There is a meaning difference between “I first noticed the new equipment yesterday” and “Firstly, I noticed the new equipment yesterday.” In the first case, you are stating the first time something happened. In the second, you are beginning an ordered list (series).
I think you could dig a bit deeper on this one. Since hundreds of millions of native and non-native speakers use Commonwealth Englishes, I don’t think everything should be judged from the point of view of US preferences.

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By: GrammarBook.com https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/first-vs-firstly/#comment-1521399 Thu, 10 Mar 2022 23:26:06 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=4664#comment-1521399 In reply to Mary Hughes.

As the post states, “If you wish to continue writing and saying firstly, you won’t be defying grammatical principles. But don’t be surprised if other people act as if you are. It’s a word most native English speakers don’t use, and many might assume it implies a lesser understanding of the language. Unless you have a specific reason to use firstly, secondly, thirdly, and so on, it’s better to stick with the shorter, simpler, and more commonly accepted alternatives first, second, and third.”

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By: Mary Hughes https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/first-vs-firstly/#comment-1520863 Wed, 09 Mar 2022 18:32:44 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=4664#comment-1520863 I thought we were asking if firstly is ok to use as the first word in a sentence.

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By: Joan Galt https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/first-vs-firstly/#comment-1514668 Wed, 23 Feb 2022 05:31:11 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=4664#comment-1514668 The usage has always seemed improper to me, and I’m stunned to learn it actually isn’t!

Despite their similarity as adverbs, “first” and “firstly” are hardly interchangeable in all situations. In the first place, one would not say, “I firstly noticed it yesterday.” One might ask, “First off, what are you doing in my home?” or “Firstly, I hope you have insurance.” In the end, “first” is the better choice if you want to avoid criticism from peers and stern looks from professors.

Moral of story- Don’t judge alternate adverb usage as a negative.

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By: GrammarBook.com https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/first-vs-firstly/#comment-1456447 Thu, 29 Apr 2021 14:46:39 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=4664#comment-1456447 In reply to Jean Korybski.

The term “first off” is grammatically correct; however, we would not recommend using it in formal writing.

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By: Jean Korybski https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/first-vs-firstly/#comment-1455287 Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:27:22 +0000 https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/?p=4664#comment-1455287 I have used the term first off. Is this grammatically correct?

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